Submitted by Niccola Simpson email address niccola1simpson@ecosse.net May be reposted I have just received the submission of the ME guidelines to NICE from the ME Association. They claim that they have consulted their members on this, before submitting their guidelines today which is the last day for submission to be handed in. If I was not online I would not have known about the NICE guidelines draft. I as a member of the ME Association have not been consulted about this. The vast majority of the ME Association members are not online, so will know very little or nothing of the NICE draft lines and what is in it and AfME and the other ME charities are no better. I have been lucky enough to get a summary of the draft of the NICE guidelines, and they made my blood run cold. They advocate CBT and GET for everyone who has ME/CFS this includes the severely affected and when a relapse or an increase of ME/CFS symptoms occur they recommend that the level of physical exercise is maintained to prevent deconditioning. From personal experience over the last 11 years that I have been ill I have tried to raise my daily physical and mental output, when ME/CFS symptoms start to reappear I have tried to carry on at the level I was at, my symptoms got worse until I was unable to carry out even the most basic of tasks to keep body and soul together, I then had to collected and go and stay at my mothers so I could be looked after until could take care of myself again, this took around 3 months. Once again the ME Charities have sold the ME community down the river they seem to want to run with the Fox and Hunt with the hounds and the losers in this game are the people who actually have ME /CFS. There has been 8.5 million pounds to set up clinics in England and Wales, the vast majority of these have been run along the guidelines that this illness is psychosomatic and have used CBT and GET on their patients. The staff running these clinics do not have a full understanding of how this illness works in fact there are very few people in the UK who are medically trained who understand this illness at all. There is no diagnostic test for ME/CFS the diagnosis is arrived at by eliminating other illnesses that show some similar symptoms, this means there is a delay in the diagnosis and in the meantime the patient is given the wrong information, they are told to take more exercise when they should be resting which makes their illness worse. If they rest from day one they stand a chance of recovery; where as if they go back to work or take daily exercise there is very good chance that they will not recover at all and their illness will get worse. The WHO have this illness under the Neurology section of illness, this is due to the many neurological problems that people with ME/CFS have. What is required is proper research into the physical causes of this illness, then patients can receive the correct treatment to help them on the road to recovery.